They have been called Slimming diseases,eating disorders and now they are classed as Psychological disorders. Anorexia Nervosa and Bulimia Nervosa two Illnessess responsible for a high numberof deaths amongst young people. Even today when Governments are calling for ways to fight obesity these two disorders are still claiming the lives of young girls and incredible as it sounds boys.
So who is to blame for these continuing disorders? It is fine to say that it is a Psychological disorder and put it down to the patient. The point is who made that patient believe she needed to be thin to look good? Who presents the minds of these young people with images that they feel they have to live up to?
Everyday on our screens,in magazines and newspapers there are images of the so called Beautiful people. Actresses and Actors,Models male and female.Singers,Bands. Tonight it was proclaimed that some magazine declared that Kelly Brook has the perfect body. In whose eyes? To the media that like to take pictures of beautiful women? To the fashion designers that want to drape clothes on her? To the movie moguls who see her as dollar signs? What about to the ordinary everyday woman? The teenager with all the usual teenage ailments? The slightly dumpy ten year old? That are all suddenly made aware that they are not anywhere near beautiful as it is seen through their eyes on the TV,or the pages opened before them. That anyone over a size 10 is fat and frumpy and Ugly every day this is pushed at them.
All the adverts to sell cosmetics are performed by what are classed as beautiful women,the ones for shampoo,hair colour even anti-aging creams all beautiful,slim women.
So who is to blame? The model/Actress/Actor? The Media? Parents? Despite Government assurances that we are becoming a nation of Overweight people these diseases/illnesses/Psychological disorders whichever handle you want to put on them still claim lives every year. And noone apparently is to blame.
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Beauty and the Diseases..Who`s to Blame?
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 | GoingSomewhere [Member] 2006-04-12 @ 09:35 |
Even the beautiful people aren't so beautiful without their professionally applied makeup and special camera lighting.
The trouble is you rarely see them that way. It is also rarely mentioned what they have to do to keep the beautiful bodies and faces.
 | Jamesdad [Member] 2006-04-13 @ 17:38 |
I think it was a well known female journalist of West Country extraction who said that well known fashion designers were either ugly women or misogynist gay men.I've no idea if it's true, but I think it's depressing when the glossy magazine editors(mainly female) defend this ambiguous practice of showing and promoting 'skininess is normal' but then acknowledge this 'perfection' is unattainable![noteably Liz Jones, former editor of Marie Claire has critisised the practice]. I know of a model who was below her BMI, and told she needed to lose few pounds by an agency.A local eveing paper runs an annual 'find a local fashion model' copetition. The usual attributes, boys above 5'10' and 'interesting', girls above 5'7'' and under eight stone!Two years ago it had a headline (I'm not making this up) about a 14 year old who had died of Anorexia, as she wanted to be a model!The paradox? It ran the competition three pages in, I think it was lost on the sub editor that day.
All the so called 'babes' and whatever else you see are airbrushed and not perfect as the magazines would have you believe. Truly attractive woman are not necessarily 'beautiful' and/or skinny.Well, thats my opinion anyway. You can agree or be wrong, up to you!! ;-))
Yes the people you see in magazines are airbrushed,the ones you see on film and TV are wearing a ton of makeup they have to because of the lights etc. It doesn`t stop the media pushing the perfect woman as thin and beautiful. This is what the child sees it is what she/he strives to be.
 | MichaelStMark pro 2006-04-15 @ 09:05 |
Ties in nicely with last week's news report that a staggering 90% of women are unhappy with their bodies. Is it any wonder, considering what they're pumped full of by the media every single day of their formative years?
Extra tragic considering most men are actually very happy with average and slimmish when the female mind is attractive to them. Most men would be turned off and bored to death in time - even with that "perfect" figure and cover-girl looks - if she's a bit thick and self-centred.
When I researched this ( As I do with all my posts) I was staggered to find that %10 of all Anorexic/Bulimic sufferers were boys.I had always believed that boys went the othe way pumping themselves full of hormonal stuff to be muscley. But with the new breed of film star/model it seems that boys strive for the lean look too.
The media tells us that to attract a man we have to be beautiful,well dressed with perfect make-up and hair. They have just raised the average size to a fourteen from a twelve,yet they still have size eight models wearing the latest fashions,size six film and tv stars in front of them every minute,famous people that weigh no more than a child pushing diets and slimming aids. And does not your average man drool over film and TV stars and models,this is what the female sees and trys to emulate.
| Jamesdad [Member] 2006-04-15 @ 19:06 |
I mentioned about Liz Jones and the article in a paper last sunday on my first entry. One of the female editors of said glossies apparently justified in the ariticle the case for 'skinny' models.(and you'll love this)The clothes that are hung on the models at fashion shows are mostly ONLY made for the show, ergo, only emaciated five foot nine plus women will actually get in em! It's obviously lost on the poor pretentious sweet things that if they made NORMAL size clothes for NORMAL size women (of all ages-not just half starved 16-26 coke snorting prima donnas) then the appeal might just be greater?
| MichaelStMark pro 2006-04-15 @ 20:30 |
lol.
That reminds me of the doll's house furniture that Barratts etc have specially turned to install in their show homes before the rest of the ticky tacky estate is finished -of course to make the brick sheds they churn out look bigger. Ditto with guys & dolls who model new cars - they're always titchy as hell.
Lyn still seems a little uncertain about guys "drooling over" fashion etc models. Well yes, especially the younger males but that's purely the testosterone rising, as it were. But that's the gloss, the surface. And whilst appearance is important to a man to a degree in actual relationships, what keeps him keen varies but it would be safe to say mental stimulation compatability does the trick. If the personal energy between the couple is a relaxing blend, then even the sex bit can drop off over time and it's no great shakes to either.
A relationship is neither the man nor the woman individually. It's an emotional reaction that takes place when two distinctive energies blend. Exactly like a chemical reaction in a lab when 2 chemicals are mixed. Flash and bang, smoke and burn-out is no good. Much better and long-term would be a healthy satisfied glow in thew dark!
I guess we don't "shop around" enough first for that compatable energy blend with another and instead settle according to inner hang-ups and insecurities. That happens a lot, malheuresement. What's the divorce rate now. . .60%? And of the rest, how many are suffering in silence for the sake of the kids or from fear of being alone?
I didn`t suffer in silence because of the kids nor have I ever feared being alone,probably why i am still single,they say I am too fussy.But I just haven`t found that glow in the dark yet.
 | Velvet_1984 [Member] 2006-04-16 @ 00:32 |
In all honesty though, you really are not going to make a difference unless you stop buying the products, clothing etc. that portray these kind of ideals. Obviously these cosmetic, fashion brands, whatever, are out there to make money. Do you really think they're concerned with morals? Why should they be? Its not up to them, they just want us to buy their stuff. I know... when I see a matchstick girl in some high fashion magazine, airgrushed of all possible imperfections, draped in Chanel... that it is purely for aesthetics, to sell the product. Doesn't it make sense to have beautiful clothing advertised on an extraordinarily beautiful woman? I'm an average, healthy size 10/12 and I have enough common sense not to compare myself to these itsy bitsy models.
Britain's weight problems should be blamed, for some part anyway, on the lack of emphasis in schools to learn about food, cooking, nutrition, the basics. I'm a chef and I love and appreciate good food (not always healthy!). I have a close relationship with food and I understand it. I think thats what helps me to stay slim and healthy. It would be so nice to see other people care what they actually put into their mouths.... to care about the quality of the food they're eating rather than rely on over-processed microwave meals or fast food. Sorry to digress, but thats my opinion.
A lot of the obesity problems are down to lack of knowledge about food I agree.And lifestyle etc. And I love it when people digress. It is another thing that should be addressed,with so many programmes on TV dealing with food you would think that people would start to take notice.
The trouble is that young girls see these people and want to look that way.Thats where the problems with Anorexia and Bulimia start and not just for the clothes they wear,but because they want to be models too. Because they are fed so much hype about the glamorous lifestyle etc.If they knew what a model really goes through to be at the top they may think twice about it.
| Velvet_1984 [Member] 2006-04-16 @ 01:22 |
Of course and only a handful of those girls who so want it will 'get to the top' anyway. I wholly sympathise with sufferers of eating disorders but I find it difficult to point the finger of blame at magazines, fashions houses, television. They provide us with the best looking (and that for them means slim) people because some sort of analysis must have proved that is what is sucessful... that is what we want to see. Should it not be up to us to challenge this rather than blaming them for giving us what they thought we wanted anyway?
Like I said, I sympathise, because I have been worried about my sister suffering from an eating disorder at times. However, I think one of the problems is that these conditions have lots of stigma attached to them and sufferers won't find much sympathy from others for what they're going through. Perhaps if there was more publicity and education given to the subject, it might help.
It seems that the Government is trying to play this down in their drive to combat what they see as an alarming level of obesity. Only when it affects someone famous is it brought out of the cupboard and dusted down.There are innumearable websites on Anorexia and Bulimia as well as wasting diseases etc. As for analysis on what sells well sex has always been the best seller of anything.Thats what they market.
| MichaelStMark pro 2006-04-16 @ 08:26 |
That's correct Lyn, the Govt. are not only playing down the obesity crisis, they are deliberately keeping everyone in the dark about the real cause of the problem - refined carbohydrates. Because they are in cahoots with the food industry, which has just too much ££££s to lose by the truth getting out of the bag.
Highly addictive, disastrous to teeth and to health alike, we are bombarded with this crap-posing-as-food wherever we go.
We just aren't evolved to process refined white sugar and flour.
These refined carbs when eaten to excess, block the body's natural fat-burning hormones and are stored on and in the body as fat and bad cholestrol in the arteries over time.
Constant hits of these high carb foods leads to Diabetes, Depression and Heart disease, costing the NHS more even than smoking.
I'm afraid to say it's our faves crisp snacks, bread, pasta, pizza, rice - you know, the high profit cheapo stodge/sludge.
Excercise is important of course, but unless you're more or less marathon-running every day, eating lots of the above will still pile on the weight especially as our metabolism slows up, after 40 or so.
I agree if anorexia and bulimia are eating or psychological disorders they would have always existed and you would find an equal numbers of case all round the globe right? Anorexia caused by starvation and bulimia is caused by purging, it is simple as that. You starve the body of food then your body gets used to it, its like exercise and over eating, they become physical addictions. So you have to us why people started starving themselves or purging in the first place. It ain't likely to be self-harm is it?
 | rithompson [Member] http://random-veryrandom.blog.co.uk 2006-04-19 @ 18:46 |
The perfect body doesn't exist, because all women are born different sizes and shapes! As long as you're not under or over weight, you're body size is fine!
2006-04-24 @ 13:49
The problem is these glossy magazines are so well marketed to their target audience that it is what I call brain washing.
About a week ago I watched a program on models and celebrities and it showed some of the photos before they were air brushed and digitally altered to enhance the photographs in these glossy magazines. Now some of these so called beauties are possitively ordinary before the enhancement of the photos and we the public who buy this stuff think we are looking at the reel article. (in a sense we are but with touch ups)I think it is so sad that young girls cannot have enough self esteem and love for themselves and who they are.
Maybe this is their parents fault for not building there self esteem so high nothing could break it down but that would be a bit harsh on parents who do try hard and do care. Some people say it's the patients own fault but I say when something is so well marketed and a reader is at a low ebb and clutching for a pipe dream it's easily understood that they will be reach out to what seems an easy fix and buy a magazine and try to think that will be me in a very short while and then reality sets in and depression takes over.What the answer is I have no idea but I thank you for this timely and interesting topic. L O L
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